Goodbye GOD or NOT
Two weeks ago, GOD or NOT 10 was cancelled because there were no theist submissions. Tomorrow’s edition, which was to be hosted at Buridan’s Ass, is also cancelled. Once again, the theist bloggers have shown no interest in participating; not a single believer submitted work.
It’s over. The grand experiment has failed, and I’m bringing the carnival to a close. I want to thank everyone who hosted and participated, particularly LBBP, Chad and Cadmus.
Failure is acceptable if you learn from it, so what have I learned from this experience?
1. Some theists (and theasts) are willing to exchange ideas about the existence and nature of gods in an open, intellectual forum.
2. The vast majority is not.
~I AM~
March 26th, 2006 at at 10:28 pm
That’s too bad. However, I do look forward to the new Calendar series. You win some, you lose some.
March 27th, 2006 at at 3:04 am
Bah, well it was an interesting idea. Intellectual forums aren’t really their thing anyway
March 27th, 2006 at at 8:38 am
Right before I hosted it, too! Oh well.
I can’t help but think that if the theists thought they were winning the debate, then then would still be participating.
March 27th, 2006 at at 1:48 pm
Oh, you know you were just looking for a reason to cancel it, because you’re an atheist and all atheists are liars, including me, right now.
So, what biases do most theists have about atheists? We know they fear us, but why would that stop them from posting their thoughts online where we can’t hurt them? Are they also afraid that we will tempt them to moral ruin by thinking about an issue from more than one side?
I think this confirms my finding that all theists prioritize comfort over truth. And by comfort, I mean escape. And by escape, I mean a tug-of-war between fatalistic depression and impossible dreams. And by that last part, I mean something that only a coward would entertain, which, incidentally, brings us back to the U of M study’s finding of fear as a central motivating factor. Damn, I’m good.
March 27th, 2006 at at 3:10 pm
I don’t know how you get from “There were no theist submissions for the last two “God or Not” carnivals” to your two conclusions. There doesn’t seem to be any obvious link, at least.
March 27th, 2006 at at 3:13 pm
That really is too bad. I think your conclusion is sadly correct, theists just aren’t really interested in open debate, just affirmation in their beliefs.
March 27th, 2006 at at 3:59 pm
Thanks for your work on this, I AM. I think it was a very interesting experiment and worthwhile to try it. For my own part, I had intended to stay more involved and continue to try to rally the theist troops but some real-life issues have superceded my blogging ventures. I don’t know if I’d ultimately consider it a failure, since I can say I’ve gained some valuable insight into the prevailing thoughts of atheists throughout this process. Of course, I do not foresee any deconversion in my future, but I feel a little more educated in the end and that’s always a good thing.
March 27th, 2006 at at 4:09 pm
Congratulations, Uberkuh. You are the winner of the first ever Evangelical Atheist Comment of the Week Award.
March 27th, 2006 at at 6:56 pm
I am very disappointed that this is ending. I was wondering recently why no one had emailed me lately to remind me that the next God or Not carnival was due soon! From my perspective this has failed simply because of the poor memories of people like me - give me a prompt, resurrect it and I will participate and try and stir up some other theists to do so to! I think this is a truly great idea that should and could live again!
March 27th, 2006 at at 8:33 pm
I’ll tell ya what… I’ve been drinking so lets argue some!
Are you guys idiots?!? God exists! it’s right there in front of you. Look, snow flakes become more complex, they go from high entropy to low entropy, when you take energy away from them. That’s obviously the work of God! Duh!
Look, did it ever occur to you that the world is pretty and stuff, and that there are butterflies and clouds and stuff. It’s because God made it just that way, because that’s how we would like it!
You gotta be dumber than a bag of hammers not to see that! Jesus loves you! If you would only open your heart to jesus and the grace of the holy spirit, you would see what kind of a fuck-knuckle you really are. THEN, when you see that you’re a piece of garbage, then and only then, we can talk about saving your soul through your voting.
So in the meantime, think about how your flesh will boil, and how your soul will howl, when your soul is scourged of the sin of your blasphemy. You Suck.
Respectfully,
Dull Blade
March 27th, 2006 at at 9:27 pm
Eh, you can do better than that. C’mon, put some thought into your faux-argument.
Now excuse me whilst i go howl to the Satan’s fiery moon, because I am a godless heathen with no respect. And I let my friends drive drunk.
March 27th, 2006 at at 11:13 pm
It’s really a shame that it had to end. I’m hoping it will be resurrected in the near future. As a new blogger, I definitely would be eager to participate, assuming I was knowledgable on the subject at hand. However, since I’m a strong atheist, I don’t think I could help spur theist participation. I lost my right to participate at theist forums when I analogized growing fetuses and growing tumors.
March 28th, 2006 at at 5:01 am
Theists wouldn’t contribute because they”re PUSSIES. If they weren’t pussies, they wouldn’t be theists… It’s fear and the discomfort of deep thought that drives the average person to theism, as it provides a ready made set of answers to lifes great questions. God is nothing more than a spiritual iPod, providing comforting sounds that divert you from what can be a bleak reality.
Marx was so right…
March 28th, 2006 at at 7:20 am
Seth,
I tried thinking harder about it, but my brain started to hurt. Whats the best arguement against Atheism that you’ve heard?
March 28th, 2006 at at 7:39 am
As an atheist, perhaps I could offer some reasons to counter the suggestion that ‘Theists wouldn’t contribute because they’’re PUSSIES.’ Now, I may well be a pussy and I’ll admit that I’m not completely sure what the necessary characteristics would be, but I’m not sure if that conclusion is completely satisfactory.
I think that what’s been learned from this experiement (the 2 points at the end of the post) are inaccurate. Perhaps I could re-write them:
1. Some theists and some atheists are willing to exchange ideas about the existence and nature of gods in an open, intellectual forum.
2. The vast majority is not.
Or even:
1. Some theists (and theasts) are willing to exchange ideas about the existence and nature of gods in an open, intellectual forum.
2. The vast majority have never even heard of this website.
I’ve been blogging for three years, yet I’d never heard of this site. How that demonstrates that I’m a pussy and the vast majority of theists are not willing to exchange ideas about the existence and nature of gods in a forum, I don’t know. However, the thing that may make me a pussy is that even if I had known about it I wouldn’t have taken part. Neither would most atheists, because endeavours like this usually achieve very little.
March 28th, 2006 at at 10:16 am
Congratulations, Uberkuh. You are the winner of the first ever Evangelical Atheist Comment of the Week Award.
Or, as it’ll turn out to be, “Uberkuh’s Snappy Comment of the Week”.
March 28th, 2006 at at 12:29 pm
The problem is your can’t argue with theists is because it always goes like this:
“I feel in my heart the god doesn’t want you to eat meat on fridays.”
“Well I prayed for guidance and Jesus told me that he Does want you to eat meat on fridays.”
“Well I felt the grace of the holy spirit when I didn’t eat meat on friday.”
“Well I felt god’s loving warmth cover me when I ate meat on friday.”
“Yeah well you’re stupid.”
“Bite me! where’s my gun?”
And there you have all of the intellectual discussions had by religious people for the last thousand years or so. The details change but the plot is always the same.
March 28th, 2006 at at 12:49 pm
Congratulations, Uberkuh. You are the winner of the first ever Evangelical Atheist Comment of the Week Award.
Ahem.
March 29th, 2006 at at 12:58 pm
I predict the series will be resurrected in 3 days. Will visit a few close friends, then vanish again.
March 29th, 2006 at at 4:10 pm
And UberKuh definitely earned it.
And if I know UberKuh, this wont be the last time
March 29th, 2006 at at 7:34 pm
Who’s UberKuh? I mean nice job on the comment thing but why is everyone on your dick? I mean no disrespect but….could someone explain it to me? I’m kinda new here. Are you famous or something?
March 29th, 2006 at at 10:07 pm
Who’s UberKuh? I mean nice job on the comment thing but why is everyone on your dick? I mean no disrespect but….could someone explain it to me? I’m kinda new here. Are you famous or something?
He is obviously unenlightened. Seize him for processing.
March 30th, 2006 at at 2:01 pm
Who’s UberKuh? I mean nice job on the comment thing but why is everyone on your dick? I mean no disrespect but….could someone explain it to me? I’m kinda new here. Are you famous or something?
Something. There is an x such that x is something iff something is x.
March 30th, 2006 at at 4:00 pm
Dull Blade,
I’m kinda new here.
That is your explanation.
You see Dull Blade, we are all a supportive grass roots community of rational free thinkers, and we are also people who generally delight in devouring delectable intellectual dishes.
UberKuh provides such dishes in spades. The respect he has in the atheist community is earned. Every cent of it. And as far as atheist amateur blogging goes, UberKuh, like I AM, is a well known name. Since being famous is relative, I guess you could say that he is relatively famous.
Maybe you should stop by UberKuhs blog to see why everyone is “on his dick”. You can find it at http://www.uberkuh.com/
If you decide to hang around, then welcome.
I hope the quality and content of your comments improves, and you may even feel like starting your own blog, so that you too may end up having people “on your dick”. But if it doesnt, dont be suprised if you end up being labelled, simply, a “dick”.
March 30th, 2006 at at 5:48 pm
Hey that’s cool, I deserve that and actually expected it. With all due respect, in my experience I’ve found most atheists to be pretentious or painful. Intellecual elitism is a common weakness among atheists, myself included at times. I’ve been hanging around for a while and I’ve read a lot. I’ve loved I am’s stuff. Uberkuh, I meant no disrespect, I don’t know your work, but I hope to, but I’m also not going to be afriad to test the waters and I’m not going to pull punches. My “free-spirited” descrpitions are bit over the top. Ok, that’s fair. You guys want to keep it on a higher level? That’s cool. But I sure would like a good arguement or a real debate with other smart people. It’s a wasteland out here, you should see the folks I work with! So I tried to goad you guys into life. I’m glad someoone rose to the challenge. It took awhile.
In my defense, the comments above are chock full of fawning and worship. I was just kind of wondering about it. Thanks to Aaron for his venomous explaination, I bet you liked writing it, right? Sure you did! Just like I enjoyed getting your hackles up and explaining myself.
Ok, so I’m a dick. I’ve been called worse. I just hope you guys aren’t so full of yourselves, that you won’t get into a shouting match with your siblings just for the fun of it.
Uber, i’ll be visiting your website soon. Aaron, I hope you’ll be kind enough the give me grief later on.
Nothing but love,
DB
March 30th, 2006 at at 6:25 pm
So I tried to goad you guys into life.
DB, I think you just stumbled into a bit of a lull. Things have gotten rather heated on occasion. Arron is normally considered a conciliatory voice. Take a look here for an example.
March 30th, 2006 at at 6:50 pm
Dull Blade,
No problem. Please note that I didnt actually label you a “dick” but alluded to the possibility of being labelled so in the future.
I got all motivated to give a reply that walked a fine line between friendliness and smart-assness. Maybe it was too smart-assed?
Welcome to the community and I hope you enjoy the material.
IMO, elitism is healthy. Arrogance is not. And there is a difference.
March 30th, 2006 at at 6:57 pm
haha, it’s OK….I am kind of a dick.
This place is an Oasis!
March 30th, 2006 at at 10:51 pm
I do tend to stimulate. Wait, Aaron, I thought I told you not to tell anyone about that!
Then again, I do…
I do enjoy this community of “rational free thinkers… who generally delight in devouring delectable intellectual dishes,” as Aaron so eloquently put it. I’m afraid the world would be intolerable (not that it isn’t already) without a supportive group of friends who share the common bond of wanting to rape, murder, and eat little pink Christian babies to make sense of such a cruel, godless, amoral world. You guys are great.
March 30th, 2006 at at 11:17 pm
You guys are great.
Uh oh, were not going to have to hug now are we?
March 31st, 2006 at at 12:06 am
Damn. Once again, my tireless attempts to destroy everyone around me go unheralded.
March 31st, 2006 at at 6:32 am
This place is an Oasis!
I consider that to be a tremendous compliment. Thank you.
March 31st, 2006 at at 12:00 pm
Tanooki Joe,
Dont feel too bad. I am secretly plotting a joint takeover of the “internet” with you and me as the Emporer/Darth Vader combination that has proved so effective in times long ago and galaxies far far away.
April 3rd, 2006 at at 5:49 am
Ptcheewww!
Wow, I guess that was the sound of flippant humour skimming peoples heads….
April 6th, 2006 at at 6:32 pm
Oh, you know you were just looking for a reason to cancel it, because you’re an atheist and all atheists are liars, including me, right now.
So, what biases do most theists have about atheists? We know they fear us, but why would that stop them from posting their thoughts online where we can’t hurt them? Are they also afraid that we will tempt them to moral ruin by thinking about an issue from more than one side?
I think this confirms my finding that all theists prioritize comfort over truth. And by comfort, I mean escape. And by escape, I mean a tug-of-war between fatalistic depression and impossible dreams. And by that last part, I mean something that only a coward would entertain, which, incidentally, brings us back to the U of M study’s finding of fear as a central motivating factor. Damn, I’m good.
lol
Uberkuh,
Fay
If you seriously believe that then I will have to slap you around verbal a bit more than my usual dose in this site to make up for it and show you what Christians are really made of. “Fear as a motivator” hey, you come right out of a comic book
April 6th, 2006 at at 6:39 pm
I’ll tell ya what… I’ve been drinking so lets argue some!
Are you guys idiots?!? God exists! it’s right there in front of you. Look, snow flakes become more complex, they go from high entropy to low entropy, when you take energy away from them. That’s obviously the work of God! Duh!
Look, did it ever occur to you that the world is pretty and stuff, and that there are butterflies and clouds and stuff. It’s because God made it just that way, because that’s how we would like it!
You gotta be dumber than a bag of hammers not to see that! Jesus loves you! If you would only open your heart to jesus and the grace of the holy spirit, you would see what kind of a fuck-knuckle you really are. THEN, when you see that you’re a piece of garbage, then and only then, we can talk about saving your soul through your voting.
So in the meantime, think about how your flesh will boil, and how your soul will howl, when your soul is scourged of the sin of your blasphemy. You Suck.
Respectfully,
Dull Blade
lol
it was hardly respectful what you said! But who knows maybe atheists like it rough.
Fay
April 6th, 2006 at at 6:48 pm
Theists wouldn’t contribute because they”re PUSSIES. If they weren’t pussies, they wouldn’t be theists… It’s fear and the discomfort of deep thought that drives the average person to theism, as it provides a ready made set of answers to lifes great questions. God is nothing more than a spiritual iPod, providing comforting sounds that divert you from what can be a bleak reality.
Marx was so right…
Your delusional Pinchbeck lol
Every courageous act that has changed what is wrong about society (e.g. slavery, discrimination and other inhumane concepts) has had Christians at the forefront debating and taking the flack to change what is obviously wrong. Wimps and Pussies would play it safe and never challenge anything in society at the risk of persecution.
Fay
April 6th, 2006 at at 7:12 pm
The problem is your can’t argue with theists is because it always goes like this:
“I feel in my heart the god doesn’t want you to eat meat on fridays.”
“Well I prayed for guidance and Jesus told me that he Does want you to eat meat on fridays.”
“Well I felt the grace of the holy spirit when I didn’t eat meat on friday.”
“Well I felt god’s loving warmth cover me when I ate meat on friday.”
“Yeah well you’re stupid.”
“Bite me! where’s my gun?”
And there you have all of the intellectual discussions had by religious people for the last thousand years or so. The details change but the plot is always the same.
Hitting the bottle again Dull Blade
This is how you’s guys relate to Christians not the other way around, so in time the Christians think well they don’t really want to debate the subject openly, they just make the same old stale and incredulous claims that atheists are intelligent and Christians are dumb if they are not atheists. Can you see what I mean when I say that if you’s lost these tired and ridiculous often repeated sayings and stuck to the subject of debate theist may think it is an intellectual challenge that is going somewhere. I usually step over such comments, and debate the person anyway when they resort to attacking the person without facts to support their assertions because I believe that it still give the person to meet me at my level of debate if they choose to disengage from all the rot they speak that is not related to the debate topic. But a lot of Christians would not persist with this debate because they don’t see past these waste of time comments to believe it can go somewhere like I do.
Fay
April 6th, 2006 at at 7:33 pm
Damn. Once again, my tireless attempts to destroy everyone around me go unheralded.
Fay
April 6th, 2006 at at 8:05 pm
Verbally, not verbal.
April 7th, 2006 at at 6:08 am
Hellooooooo, Social Scientist!!
H-U-M-O-U-R
April 8th, 2006 at at 6:10 am
Hellooooooo, Social Scientist!!
H-U-M-O-U-R
Well that’s alright then
April 19th, 2006 at at 11:47 am
Hello guys.. My name is Jordan King and I’m a Liberal Christian. I believen god but I don’t believe modern day faith healers. I don’t believe Benny Hinn, Leroy Jenkins, Don Stewarts, Peter Poppoff, Oral Roberts, Paul Crouch or Robert Tilton.
I don’t believe the Catholic religion and I think Pope John Paul is a false Prophet because he doesn’t accept Jesus Christ as his personal savior.
I don’t believen the so called prophet Muhammad.
Romans 14:12 - “So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.”
That says if we don’t accept Jesus as are Savior. Check this out… Jesus died for are sins. SEx Abortion, porn, profanity, masturbating, gay marriage, suicide, devil worship, witchcraft, degreating women, raping children, adultery, murder.
Like the bible says.. Thou shall love thy neighbor but hate thy enemy.
Bill Maher is athiest. Albert Einstein is agostic. Difference between both of them is is that Albert Einstein leaves religion on the table.
Romans 12:19 - “Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.”
I respect you guys. Just like the bible says you can only believe GOD by TRUTH. You guys throw that out of the picture.
Matthew 12:36 - “But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.
That means when everyone dies, your guys opinion darkness forever. My opinion… IF you didn’t accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior…. YOURE GOING TO HELL.. NO EXPECTIONS
This is why Jesus is the son of GOD. I believe there are False religons. I think this New Age crap is non sense. I think Mormons is Man made by John Smith. Boyscouts is a mormon program. Jesus Christ of latter Day Saints????????
I don’t like mormons even knocking on my door.
“But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.” -1st Corinthians 2:14
I believe the bible speaks about life. Your bible is evolution and my bible is the Holy Bible King James version.
Evolution makes no sense at all. I just don’t see how any intelligent person could believe such nonsense. I mean, have you ever seen an ape that could be taught to do algebra? No! Other than the most basic skills (which a dog can also be taught), an ape does not have the capacity to learn anywhere near the human level. Apes are dumb! You can say a dog is smart (and it might be), but it can’t logic like a human being can.
How can pro homo sphiens. To today stardards, pre man will be mentally retarded. I don’t believen UFO’s, I don’t believen BIG FOOT. I don’t believe my Ancestors were stupid not so bright apes.
Evolutionists have their entire lives and reputations resting upon Darwin’s theory. They’re committed to their religion, just as any true Christian is committed to his. If an evolutionist changes his views, then he denies and forsakes his fellow scientists and former educators. He becomes a “black sheep,” loses his job, his reputation, and his social standing. Since he has studied and worked his entire life to get where he is, he isn’t about to throw it all away. So the committed evolutionist chooses to strive harder and harder in his effort to disprove the Genesis account. He will ignore all facts which support Special Creation. He is not open to anything other than “evidence” to prove his theory. All evidence which proves CONTRARY to his theory is discarded and ignored.
Guys… Do you watch the Discovery Channel??? Do you believen everything they say 100% on TV.
Do you guys believen Wade cook, Don Lapre, Kevin Trudeau, Russ Whitney???? No those guys are cons. FTC always knocking on their doors.
No offense, but that is what I think about evolution….. A SCAM!!!!!!!! A dumb retarded APE you ancestor..
Do you believen Santa Claus????? No!!!!!!! Believn Easter Bunny??? No!!!
Science is the study of and its real real hard in mordern days to believen GOD with mordern Technology like THE TV!!!!!!
This FAKE FAKE TV EVANGLISTS who live off tax free donations.
Modern Science and technology overshadows Jesus Christ.
Do you believe Barry Bonds took steriods when two San Francisco journalists investigated on 200 sourses of steriod use???? Sources are strong but Barry Bonds pass every test and admitted unknownly taking the CREAM and The Clear from Victor Conte..
Make some sense… Science IS MAN MADE!!!!!!! MAN MADE UP ALIENS… THEY WON’T TALKING ABOUT ALIENS IN THE 1930S……… If man didn’t go to space…. They wouldn’t make up that BS!!!!
“Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.” -1st Peter 1:23
I challenge you guys to test my faith into God. I debate you guys. I used to baseball, if it wasn’t for god, I will still be 5′9 throw 58mph. I’m 6′0 throw 92mph. I prayed for salvation and confessed my sins.
I’m a sinner just like you guys. I once challenged gods word. I once had agnostic views. I realize salvation made me a better humanbean.
1. You are a sinner (Romans 3:10,23).
2. You deserve to go to hell to pay for your sins (Romans 6:23; Revelation 21:8).
3. Jesus Christ, God in the flesh (God’s Son), died upon the cross to pay for your sins (John 3:16-18; Romans 5:8).
I follow that, if it wasn’t for god I’ll probably commit suicide because my agnostic thoughts about religion.
“But not as the offence, so also is the FREE GIFT. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the FREE GIFT is of many offences unto justification” (Romans 5:15,16).
Gods word is free. You don’t have to pay for it. You just have to ask for it. You don’t need the F…….ing King court like the Catholic religion. You just need to pray.
April 19th, 2006 at at 12:02 pm
I believe there are False religons. I think this New Age crap is non sense. I think Mormons is Man made by John Smith. Boyscouts is a mormon program. Jesus Christ of latter Day Saints????????
I don’t like mormons even knocking on my door.
[…]
I challenge you guys to test my faith into God.
I don’t care about your faith in “God”.
The only difference between your “belief” and reality is one less “God”.
April 19th, 2006 at at 4:07 pm
Lets get serious. You will believe a A FUCKING APE IS YOUR ANCESTOR. A FUCKING APE!!!!!!!!!! A PRE HOMOSPHIEN MAKES FOREST GUMP AND RAIN MAN LOOK LIKE ALBERT EISTEIN!!!!!!!!!
Doesn’t make sense. Evolution is stupid. You have to be a jackass to be evolution. Do you think man used to be a hairy, ugly, illiterate not so bright monkey lookin motherfucker.
Want to say to your kids ” this Ape used to be your ancestor.”
Get real… How does a retarded ape envolve to a human. Don’t make any sense. sOUNDS LIKE THE FUCKING TOOTH FAIRY!!!!
This is what I think, you have an ape, and a monkey.. Science is the study of.
You humans compare the ape and monkey to a human and put them together.
Scientist are misleading!!!! Will you let a ape do your taxes?? Can a ape drive a car??? Can a ape talk??? No!!!!!!!!
Caveman is a illusion… Its kinda like the missing link. A dumb hairy motherfucker who doesn’t know how to make complex decisions.
You guys need Jesus bad… You guys watch too much Discovery Channel.
Know this ATHIEST RELIGION IS SCIENCE AND EVOLUTION, SCIENTIST ARE ATHIEST, AGOSTIC, SCIENCE IS MAN MADE RESEARCH.
YOU GUYS DON’T BELIEVEN GOD BECAUSE SCIENCE DETERMINES YOUR DICISIONS.
SCIENCE IS BASED ON RESEARCH BY GATHERED EVIDENCE BY MAN!!!!!
SCIENCE IS NOT FACT!!!!
JESUS CHRIST THE ANSWER!!!!
“The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.” -Psalm 19:1-3
Are you against god. You hate god. You believe a retarded ape was your ancestor but you don’t believe Jesus Christ died on the cross for all are sins.
April 19th, 2006 at at 4:26 pm
I think I touched a nerve…
April 19th, 2006 at at 4:34 pm
Can a ape talk???
Can a humanbean named Jordan King make sense???
NO!!!
But thanks for the FREE GIFT of hysterical laughter!
April 19th, 2006 at at 4:35 pm
Check this out. God gave us the ability to think. To make complex decisions. Knowledge is power but its also disceptive. Let me explain.. You say god doesn’t exist.. Science was mainstream for four hundred years. The mind is so diceptive you (I mean Humans) can can use science (the study of) to determine whats right and whats. Unlike Apes, God made the human mind so complex, we can make infinite possibles. We need science because science got us so far but its based on MAN STUDY Since the mind is so infinite you guys (humans) can draw a picture (evolution) based on findings in mankind. Humans can make things so deceptive like cars, buildings, parks, freeways. Technology made us forget about Gods word because we (humans) are basing everything on science. Science is mainstream but scientist are misleading because are minds are so infinite we can draw a picture that we predicted that happened and say that god didn’t exist. We can say that bacteria turned to ape, and ape turned to man. Think about it, Aliens????? Man made that up. Science is a way to debunk religion.
I’m sorry but your misleading. Use you infinite mind to make sense. Can you paint of picture of scenery of Paris, France and make look deceptive? You can. I’m going to say it like this, Science is so misleading that only a human can make it up. I don’t believe bacteria formed a earth and I don’t believe a very dumb ape was are ancestor. Don’t make sense because god gave use a infinte mind that was can draw a complex picture to debunk the lord. You mind is infinite. You heard of those informorials scams on TV. Don Lapre, Wade Cook, Focus Factor, Miss Cleo, Kevin Trudeau. There misleading because they are using complex deception to believe them.
Thats what I think about science………. Misleading and too many errors. Use common sense, infinite complex brain can make anything believable even science
April 19th, 2006 at at 4:40 pm
Check this out. God gave us the ability to think.
Oh, honey. If us atheists are wrong, and there is a god, I don’t think you were there that day.
April 19th, 2006 at at 4:43 pm
Check this out. God gave us the ability to think.
Oh, honey. If us atheists are wrong, and there is a god, I don’t think you were there that day.
STOP! That’s not fare I just sprayed Diet Coke all over my screen!
April 19th, 2006 at at 4:48 pm
“Jordan King” why don’t you post any further “insights” to the most current post so we can avoid multiple threads. This “debate” promises to be amusing if not revelatory. I am going to reply to your last comment there.
P.S. What country are you from, ’cause English can’t possibly be your first language?
April 19th, 2006 at at 4:55 pm
What a minute!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! God gave us a infinite complex mind. We took advantage of that. We uses gods gift against him him. God didn’t create science. We did
Science: the study of
Look outside, it technology everywhere, cell phones. I drive a Toyota Supra and I just put a upgraded twin turbo kit in it. God gave us the ability to have infinite thinking but we abused that gift by making a deceptive picture to totally debunk god of existence because technology like TV overshadowed the word.
We are disbelievers because humasn can make a picture of a clear deception of mankind and convince us that reliogion is fake.
We are all sinners and I probably sinned more than you, but I prayed for salvation to overcome the overshadowing world of deception.
I say it like this humans can make you think what you want to think. If they want you to think a ape was your ancstor, they have the infinite resources to do it because the human mind.
April 19th, 2006 at at 6:30 pm
pssst, “Jordan King” on the other thread, their talking about you.
April 19th, 2006 at at 8:25 pm
Jordan:
Well, I say it’s a good thing I think what I want to think, as opposed to what they want me to think.
Don’t you mean him him AND him?
I dare you to say that three times fast.
Darn! Busted! Where are those pesky transitional life forms when you need ‘em?
Not my ancestor. My money’s on you, sport.
I’d say you don’t watch it enough.
So you grew a whole inch, thru believing. Nice trick that.
Man, you should go into stand-up comedy. You’re great at it.
This is a joke, isn’t it?
April 19th, 2006 at at 8:36 pm
So you grew a whole inch, thru believing. Nice trick that.
Man, you should go into stand-up comedy. You’re great at it.
This is a joke, isn’t it?
You might want to check your math. I think you’re using the metric foot (10 inches).
April 19th, 2006 at at 10:21 pm
Jordan King is overdue for his (or her?) medication.
April 20th, 2006 at at 2:28 am
I AM:
Okay, you lost me there. Nolo comprende.
April 20th, 2006 at at 2:30 am
Oh, & welcome back.
I’d belt out the theme song from ‘Welcome back, Kotter’, but it doesn’t travel well on blogs.
April 20th, 2006 at at 7:46 am
Lets get serious. You will believe a A FUCKING APE IS YOUR ANCESTOR. A FUCKING APE!!!!!!!!!! A PRE HOMOSPHIEN MAKES FOREST GUMP AND RAIN MAN LOOK LIKE ALBERT EISTEIN!!!!!!!!!
Doesn’t make sense. Evolution is stupid. You have to be a jackass to be evolution. Do you think man used to be a hairy, ugly, illiterate not so bright monkey lookin motherfucker.
Want to say to your kids ” this Ape used to be your ancestor.”
Get real… How does a retarded ape envolve to a human. Don’t make any sense. sOUNDS LIKE THE FUCKING TOOTH FAIRY!!!!
This is what I think, you have an ape, and a monkey.. Science is the study of.
You humans compare the ape and monkey to a human and put them together.
Scientist are misleading!!!! Will you let a ape do your taxes?? Can a ape drive a car??? Can a ape talk??? No!!!!!!!!
Caveman is a illusion… Its kinda like the missing link. A dumb hairy motherfucker who doesn’t know how to make complex decisions.
You guys need Jesus bad… You guys watch too much Discovery Channel.
Know this ATHIEST RELIGION IS SCIENCE AND EVOLUTION, SCIENTIST ARE ATHIEST, AGOSTIC, SCIENCE IS MAN MADE RESEARCH.
YOU GUYS DON’T BELIEVEN GOD BECAUSE SCIENCE DETERMINES YOUR DICISIONS.
SCIENCE IS BASED ON RESEARCH BY GATHERED EVIDENCE BY MAN!!!!!
SCIENCE IS NOT FACT!!!!
JESUS CHRIST THE ANSWER!!!!
“The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork. Day unto day uttereth speech, and night unto night sheweth knowledge. There is no speech nor language, where their voice is not heard.” -Psalm 19:1-3
Are you against god. You hate god. You believe a retarded ape was your ancestor but you don’t believe Jesus Christ died on the cross for all are sins.
pretty much hate god on a rgular basis when i find him.
April 21st, 2006 at at 4:53 pm
I AM:
Okay, you lost me there. Nolo comprende.
5′9 equals 5.75 feet. 6′0 equals 6 feet. He gained 3 inches, not 1.