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		<title>By: Roya</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2006/02/05/open-thread/#comment-4066</link>
		<dc:creator>Roya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2006 03:21:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SS, there is what we call facial expressions (basically the movements of facial muscles) which can be so small that it can not be picked consciously but only unconsciously. this is like controlling your breath consciously but this does not mean that when you forget about it you will stop breathing and suffercate.

this can also be as a result of chance. nowadays young girls increasingly have this problem so it wont be so surprising that your prediction came right. 

but what i dont get is how did you find out it was god who told you this?</description>
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<p>SS, there is what we call facial expressions (basically the movements of facial muscles) which can be so small that it can not be picked consciously but only unconsciously. this is like controlling your breath consciously but this does not mean that when you forget about it you will stop breathing and suffercate.</p>
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<p>this can also be as a result of chance. nowadays young girls increasingly have this problem so it wont be so surprising that your prediction came right. </p>
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<p>but what i dont get is how did you find out it was god who told you this?
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		<title>By: Social Scientist</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2006/02/05/open-thread/#comment-4060</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 07:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cheeto Says: 
                         " Or maybe… the predictions are vague (I saw a tree…) or they could be wrong or they could be bad memory (I might have been thinging that last week), or a whole host of other reasons. But the real problem here is that you are making vague assertions that lack any context - not only is there not evidence - there isn’t even a complete claim of a supernatural event."

I am going to put myself out on a limb Cheeto on this site to you and others. I have had what Christianity calls "The Gift of Word of Knowledge" since I converted to Christ 10th June 1986.
Here is what it looks like: One day I went to the doctor, I didn't know it then but I had Ross River Fever: my symptoms included 103 degrees farenheight temperature, a cough, a headache that would kill an elephant, and no energy whatsoever in that every time I got up from my chair my head did a lap of the ceiling.

Though I was experiencing 103 degrees farenheight temperature I thought I was cold because it was winter and I was sweating from the fever and that made me feel cold, so I sat outside the doctor's surgery after registering to see my doctor because despite the fact that I had a high temperature I felt cold and sought some sunshine to warm me. While I was outside I met an attractive young girl about 16 sitting outside also. While I was sitting next to her the Spirit of God said to me "This woman is having a breakdown." When He said that it is like I knew it as a fact even though I did not know the person I was talking to outside and did not know anything about them. After talking to the young woman she revealed to me that she had been coming to this doctor because she could not cope with life and the doctor said she was having a breakdown. I did not reveal to her that I knew this but encouraged her to keep seeing this (atheist) doctor who was skilled and cared about her patients. But nonetheless I knew about that woman who was a stranger to me in advance of her telling me about her reason for seeing the doctor while chatting to me. I did not have this ability which has repeated itself numerous times since then when I was an unbeliever only after I became a Christian.</description>
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<p>Cheeto Says:<br />
                         &#8221; Or maybe… the predictions are vague (I saw a tree…) or they could be wrong or they could be bad memory (I might have been thinging that last week), or a whole host of other reasons. But the real problem here is that you are making vague assertions that lack any context - not only is there not evidence - there isn’t even a complete claim of a supernatural event.&#8221;</p>
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<p>I am going to put myself out on a limb Cheeto on this site to you and others. I have had what Christianity calls &#8220;The Gift of Word of Knowledge&#8221; since I converted to Christ 10th June 1986.<br />
Here is what it looks like: One day I went to the doctor, I didn&#8217;t know it then but I had Ross River Fever: my symptoms included 103 degrees farenheight temperature, a cough, a headache that would kill an elephant, and no energy whatsoever in that every time I got up from my chair my head did a lap of the ceiling.</p>
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<p>Though I was experiencing 103 degrees farenheight temperature I thought I was cold because it was winter and I was sweating from the fever and that made me feel cold, so I sat outside the doctor&#8217;s surgery after registering to see my doctor because despite the fact that I had a high temperature I felt cold and sought some sunshine to warm me. While I was outside I met an attractive young girl about 16 sitting outside also. While I was sitting next to her the Spirit of God said to me &#8220;This woman is having a breakdown.&#8221; When He said that it is like I knew it as a fact even though I did not know the person I was talking to outside and did not know anything about them. After talking to the young woman she revealed to me that she had been coming to this doctor because she could not cope with life and the doctor said she was having a breakdown. I did not reveal to her that I knew this but encouraged her to keep seeing this (atheist) doctor who was skilled and cared about her patients. But nonetheless I knew about that woman who was a stranger to me in advance of her telling me about her reason for seeing the doctor while chatting to me. I did not have this ability which has repeated itself numerous times since then when I was an unbeliever only after I became a Christian.
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		<title>By: Cheeto</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2006/02/05/open-thread/#comment-4047</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheeto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SS: "Simply a liar hey Chuck? well how is it that people have know information that it is impossible for them to know otherwise about what others were thinking in their private thoughts or what was about to take place and predict future events then if they did not hear it from God? Are you suggesting that Christians are a superior breed of humans that have supernatural abilities that atheists don’t? This is the only explanation left if you rule out that God told them. lol "

Or maybe... the predictions are vague (I saw a tree...) or they could be wrong or they could be bad memory (I might have been thinging that last week), or a whole host of other reasons.  But the real problem here is that you are making vague assertions that lack any context - not only is there not evidence - there isn't even a complete claim of a supernatural event.

As for christians being a superior breed of humans... well in some ways I agree.  They are much better than atheists at suspending disbelief.  They are superior at avoiding logic and believing in things lacking proof.</description>
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<p>SS: &#8220;Simply a liar hey Chuck? well how is it that people have know information that it is impossible for them to know otherwise about what others were thinking in their private thoughts or what was about to take place and predict future events then if they did not hear it from God? Are you suggesting that Christians are a superior breed of humans that have supernatural abilities that atheists don’t? This is the only explanation left if you rule out that God told them. lol &#8221;</p>
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<p>Or maybe&#8230; the predictions are vague (I saw a tree&#8230;) or they could be wrong or they could be bad memory (I might have been thinging that last week), or a whole host of other reasons.  But the real problem here is that you are making vague assertions that lack any context - not only is there not evidence - there isn&#8217;t even a complete claim of a supernatural event.</p>
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<p>As for christians being a superior breed of humans&#8230; well in some ways I agree.  They are much better than atheists at suspending disbelief.  They are superior at avoiding logic and believing in things lacking proof.
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		<title>By: Social Scientist</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2006/02/05/open-thread/#comment-4026</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 01:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles Watkins Says: 

February 8th, 2006 at 11:39 am 
"Dull Blade, the problem is not listening to Invisible People. It’s the lying about having heard them in the first place. Just think of it — every single ‘righteous’ person who claims to have heard the word of God is simply a liar. And the lies work for them, so they cannot recant.

Perhaps the most effective weapon we have is ridicule.

Simply a liar hey Chuck? well how is it that people have know information that it is impossible for them to know otherwise about what others were thinking in their private thoughts or what was about to take place and predict future events then if  they did not hear it from God? Are you suggesting that Christians are a superior breed of humans that have supernatural abilities that atheists don't? This is the only explanation left if you rule out that God told them. lol</description>
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<p>February 8th, 2006 at 11:39 am<br />
&#8220;Dull Blade, the problem is not listening to Invisible People. It’s the lying about having heard them in the first place. Just think of it — every single ‘righteous’ person who claims to have heard the word of God is simply a liar. And the lies work for them, so they cannot recant.</p>
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<p>Perhaps the most effective weapon we have is ridicule.</p>
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<p>Simply a liar hey Chuck? well how is it that people have know information that it is impossible for them to know otherwise about what others were thinking in their private thoughts or what was about to take place and predict future events then if  they did not hear it from God? Are you suggesting that Christians are a superior breed of humans that have supernatural abilities that atheists don&#8217;t? This is the only explanation left if you rule out that God told them. lol
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		<title>By: Charles Watkins</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2006/02/05/open-thread/#comment-4011</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2006 16:39:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dull Blade, the problem is not listening to Invisible People. It's the lying about having heard them in the first place. Just think of it -- every single 'righteous' person who claims to have heard the word of God is simply a liar. And the lies work for them, so they cannot recant.

Perhaps the most effective weapon we have is ridicule.</description>
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<p>Dull Blade, the problem is not listening to Invisible People. It&#8217;s the lying about having heard them in the first place. Just think of it &#8212; every single &#8216;righteous&#8217; person who claims to have heard the word of God is simply a liar. And the lies work for them, so they cannot recant.</p>
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<p>Perhaps the most effective weapon we have is ridicule.
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