“Scientists” Warn of “Mutant” Flu
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) released a statement on Saturday to warn Americans that two common antiviral drugs are now essentially powerless against the most common strain of influenza affecting the U.S. this year. It is hardly surprising that these products of science don’t work, but rather than admit that their entire field of study is bogus, these “scientists” make a laughable attempt to blame their failure on the Darwinist idea of evolution. They claim that the “virus” (whatever that means) has actually evolutionated itself in just one year. Please! Uh, hello? Isn’t evolution supposed to be slow? Isn’t it supposed to make stuff better? Now I’m not scientist, but I’d say an incurable flu is definitely worse. But then again, I think dinosaurs were really cool, and they evolutionized away.
So, since they can’t really stop the flu, they call it names like “mutant.” That’s real mature. While they’re wasting their time making fun of the disease, those of us who know the truth about God’s divine plan can see what’s really going on. The flu didn’t change. It didn’t evolve from some kind of “ape flu.” Like everything else, it came straight from the LORD. For some reason, in His infinite wisdom, God has seen fit to strike down those with weak immune systems and those who don’t wash their hands thoroughly. I think it serves the filthy beggars right. And we haven’t seen the end of this. Mark my words. This super flu is going to turn up in Dover, Pennsylvania and MAKE THOSE HEATHENS PAY! That’s right folks. Pay attention to this disease. It’s the teeny-weeny, itty-bitty sword of divine vengeance.
~I AM~
January 17th, 2006 at at 7:52 am
Please do not forget that any attempt by man to stand in the way of the next plague — to fight these diseases — is “playing God”. Humans ought not to be playing God. We ought to be allowing these diseases to do what God designed them to do — wipe out huge portions of the population and leave many survivors in misery. It’s good for us. It builds character.
January 17th, 2006 at at 8:05 am
LOL
January 17th, 2006 at at 9:04 am
Heh - nice rant.
January 17th, 2006 at at 10:41 am
Except for the last three sentences, that could pass for any number of rants I’ve seen by reality-challenged types. Good job, I Am.
January 17th, 2006 at at 12:22 pm
Evolution happens, but it’s microevolution, not macroevolution.
January 17th, 2006 at at 12:32 pm
Oh man I can hardly wait. I am. Your getting it. A little more practice and you can start your own church. If you do I get to design the hats. Or helmets if you like.
JIM
January 17th, 2006 at at 1:28 pm
I think that if you’re going to be religious, you should be forced to wear a helmet at all times, like what cartman wears in that episode of south park where he’s trying to rig the special olympics (you know, what the movie “the ringer” stole from directly?)
January 17th, 2006 at at 3:20 pm
This is what someone I know would retaliate (I’m not bsing you guys here):
1.) The bacteria was already resistant to the antibiotics and therefore did not evolve or;
2.) Mutation results in a loss of genetic information, therefore, did it really evolve at all? Didn’t it devolve.
When he said that, I was at a loss for words. Someone, please, just shoot me now.
January 17th, 2006 at at 6:30 pm
I bet some asshole refused to kill his first born son after God commanded him to and now we’re all being punished for his disobedience with crazy mutant viruses. Selfish bastard.
January 17th, 2006 at at 9:00 pm
A mass of meat, tightly packed, is ripe pickins for itty bitty hungry viruses. But of course, only the sinners will be Left Behind. So if you’re a badass, skip that flu shot and go have a real shot - Beam if you’re a hillbilly, Dewars if you’re one of those thoughtful types.
January 18th, 2006 at at 1:00 am
God made AIDS to punish queers and He’s gonna make a KILLER FLU to punish…um…the rest of us for thinking AIDS was to punish the queers.
January 18th, 2006 at at 2:00 am
Evolution happens, but it’s microevolution, not macroevolution.
Are you saying that a lot of small changes over millions of years could not result in macroevolution?
January 18th, 2006 at at 2:07 am
Evolution happens, but it’s microevolution, not macroevolution.
Are you saying that a lot of small changes over millions of years could not result in macroevolution?
Nevermind; I read Uberkuh’s comment out of context. My bad.
Nice blog layout, by the way, I Am.
January 18th, 2006 at at 11:56 am
Are you saying that a lot of small changes over millions of years could not result in macroevolution?
Oh, I suppose you think my great grandfather was a bacterium soaking in sulphur springs. You’re gone burn in Hell for that attitude, son.
January 18th, 2006 at at 12:28 pm
I heard that some scientists were thinking about making it mandatory for you to sign a waiver saying that you agreed with the theory of evolution before you were able to receive a flu shot, since otherwise you don’t need one.
January 18th, 2006 at at 12:28 pm
Of course that won’t happen though, but I thought it was interesting
January 19th, 2006 at at 1:32 am
I wonder if Jeezus ever got the flu - or any illness for that matter.
It’d be pretty funny, Jeezus calling off from a healing because he was under teh weather.
January 19th, 2006 at at 1:34 am
IF there’s a god…He could stop me from typing “teh”, “tehy”, “taht”, “adn”, and “becuase” every single friggin tiem I sit down at a keyboard.
I’m leaving “tiem” up there because it’s too dammit funny.
By teh way, oh fuck it…
January 27th, 2006 at at 2:54 am
Evolution happens, but it’s microevolution, not macroevolution.
Are you saying that a lot of small changes over millions of years could not result in macroevolution?
Evolution happens, but it’s microevolution, not macroevolution.
Are you saying that a lot of small changes over millions of years could not result in macroevolution?
Nevermind; I read Uberkuh’s comment out of context. My bad.
Nice blog layout, by the way, I Am.
January 27th, 2006 at at 3:03 am
Problem with your theor of micro evolution goon is that there are 90 million mismatches of information per cell between man an chimp. That would be a gap impossible to bridge on it’s own but the amazing corrective ability of RNA to correct defects in DNA data makes it even more impossible. Any cell that changes even 1 bit of information is rejected by other cells via RNA correction let alone the possibility of 90 million changes per cell - there are hundreds of millions of cells in the body that’s 90 million times hundreds of millions. The chances of such change from chimp to man therefore is 1 to the power of 2000 (1 with 2000 zeros after it) in other words very very impossible.
January 27th, 2006 at at 3:16 am
Problem with your theor of micro evolution goon is that there are 90 million mismatches of information per cell between man an chimp. That would be a gap impossible to bridge on it’s own but the amazing corrective ability of RNA to correct defects in DNA data makes it even more impossible. Any cell that changes even 1 bit of information is rejected by other cells via RNA correction let alone the possibility of 90 million changes per cell - there are hundreds of millions of cells in the body that’s 90 million times hundreds of millions. The chances of such change from chimp to man therefore is 1 to the power of 2000 (1 with 2000 zeros after it) in other words very very impossible.
Are you saying that a lot of small changes over millions of years could not result in macroevolution?
Oh, I suppose you think my great grandfather was a bacterium soaking in sulphur springs. You’re gone burn in Hell for that attitude, son.
January 27th, 2006 at at 3:22 am
Goon hasn’t thought through the implications of his theory of evolution - namely it means he is saying he believes he is related to chimps, question is where did the chimps come from or the bacteria or whatever? Even a common bacteria has 20 encyclopedia sized books of DNA information and people have 1000 encyclopedia sized books of information. How do you take 20 books of information and increase it to 1000 books or for that matter how does 20 books of information create itself out of nothing? The answer is it can’t!
January 27th, 2006 at at 12:31 pm
Hey DUBtla, Jesus was a bedwetter when he was a child!
January 30th, 2006 at at 8:51 pm
My Testimony,
When I was an unbeliever my neighbour used to talk to me about Jesus all the time, I scoffed as some of you’s are doing on this site especially when she gave me her testimony of healing. I said to her “I cannot believe this just because you are telling me, I would have to see a miracle healing for myself, hear the prayer with my own ears and know the person that was being prayed for that they were genuinely sick and not a fake, then I would believe.” Well three months later my 18 month old baby became ill with the Hong Kong flu he couldn’t hold anything down for 2 weeks despite the medicine my chemist gave me, so I took him to the children’s hospital and they told me he had Hong Kong flu which was hospitalising babies that were in danger of dehydration and dying. They checked the medicine I had been giving him and gave me a better medicine and warned me that if he was not better in a week on the medicine they recommended I was to bring him back and they would hospitalise him and put him on a drip to prevent dehydration as they said he had already gone two weeks not holding anything down and could not go any longer than three weeks without being in danger of dehydrating. So I put him on the medicine they gave me and over the week he got progressively worse I was up every night with him and he grew so weak after another week that he was listless and did not have the strength to stand on his feet and was very pale in the face. I was going to take him to the hospital but for some reason I asked my neighbour to pray for him which she did. I saw a miracle in that moment in a second or less than a second all the colour came back into his face, the next nappy he did was firm (pior to that he had serious diarriah like water all morning) and all his energy returned to him and he got up and started chasing the cat around the house (whereas before he was too weak to stand).
January 31st, 2006 at at 8:24 pm
Once I was very very sick with bronchitis. I was spitting up phlegm by the bucketloads for several weeks. Then my doctor prescribed biaxin. I took the medicine and the bronchitis went away.
February 1st, 2006 at at 11:37 pm
And your Bronchitis point is Tommy?
This was not bronchitis I talked about it was a very serious potentially fatal flu that has killed babies and frail adults and for which there is no magic pill to take to get better. If you will note I tried medicine, then I tried better medicine from the children’s hospital and my baby did not get better. I knew a local shop keeper in the area whose baby had been hospitalised on a drip after taking the medicine to no avail like my son his baby grew steadily worse on the medicine. This was an instant healing by God.
February 1st, 2006 at at 11:56 pm
My point should be obvious to you. I’m an atheist, I was very sick, I took medicine, the illness went away. From your point of view, because I am a godless heathen, God should have prevented the medicine from making me better to punish me for my lack of belief.
Regarding your story, my first instinct is that you are making it up and that you are expecting us to believe you without evidence to back it up so that you think one of us will say “wow, Social Scientist had a sick baby that was instantly cured from prayer. Maybe I should accept Jesus as my lord and savior!” Not gonna happen SS.
Assuming your baby really was as sick as you claim, maybe the virus ran its course by the time all that medicine was used. Or, maybe the medicine took a while to kick in. It’s not like you pop a pill or swill a table spoon full of syrup and you feel instantly better. Even the Biaxin I took took about a week for it take full effect.
February 2nd, 2006 at at 1:00 am
TommyKey (TK)
I do not think God will or desires to prevent an unbeliever from getting well through medicine, quite the contrary 80% of medical breakthroughs cures for disease are created by Christian research scientists. According to the Bible God is no respector persons and does good to the unbeliever as well as the believer, I was an unbelieving mother and my baby was an unbelieving baby when he was healed. If you will refer back to my original article, you will see that I specified that the medicine was having no affect right up to the miracle prayer in that my baby had diarriah like water and could not hold down food and water all night and morning right up to the point of prayer. The medicine was not doing anything at all in fact my baby got worse on the childrens hospital’s “Better medicine”. No it was not the medicine, my baby got instantly well from all symptoms that he had right up to the point of prayer - God healed him I have no doubt whatsoever. You can choose not to believe me, but in doing so when you come to meet your maker one day (you have till you die or Jesus returns) you will not be able to say no one told me the truth about you Lord, you will be without excuse for rejecting the Lord because I and others have witnessed to you about Him. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God and come into judgement with Him.
February 2nd, 2006 at at 1:49 am
Social Scientist: You choose to believe in your “miracle”, but you also quote the “miraculous” work of Mel Tari a man convicted of fraud. Those that peddle miracles always have an ulterior motive. Mel Tari was trying to defraud wealthy heiresses out of their fortunes, and you appear to be trying to cover your doubt and insecurity about your “faith” by trying to convince others of your piety. The tools are the same in both cases, exaggerate your claims, use selective memory to convince yourself, then make up stupid shit when faced with opposition. For example; where do you get “80% of medical breakthroughs cures for disease are created by Christian research scientists”? Can you show me the results of a study that supports that claim?
February 2nd, 2006 at at 10:53 am
SS, I reject Jesus Christ as my lord and savior with all of my heart.
If we live in a universe in which a deity judges us more by whether or not we believed in and accepted a poorly documented figure as a savior rather than by our deeds and works, then we are living under a galactic tyranny that makes the Emperor and Darth Vader of Star Wars seem positively moderate and progressive by comparison.
Veiled threats of living in eternal damnation do not scare me because I know that no such place exists.
For example, as per your exchange with LBBP above and elsewhere, the Mel Tari you cite as having miraculous healing powers is a convicted fraud and con artist. Do you honestly expect me to believe that some deity is going to bestow healing powers on a man who purports to believe in Christ while overlooking the man’s criminal activities against other people? IF he is a con artist, then he cannot be a Christian, because a true Christian, as you say, would not commit crimes against other people. And if you are going to argue that he was a healer and then got tempted by the devil or something, then you have a conundrum. Because if God knows everything, then God would not give healing powers to a man knowing that after performing a few healings, that same man would be able to take advantage of his reputation to defraud others.
February 3rd, 2006 at at 1:26 am
Tk,
Hate to say it but God doesn’t work like that. Sure He knows in advance what you will do, but He does not judge people in advance for the sins they have not yet committed or withhold His provisions for future sins. Miraculously He does not even judge people for what they are doing right now because He has set a day of judgement and extends a period of grace to sinners till then. Though of course He may remove His gifting and blessing from people because of their present behaviour but always seeks to restore them to a place of blessing, gifting and service as a priority. This has been enlightening for me because it explains to me why I have not heard much about Mel Tari for about ten years or so when he was in the news all the time, it makes sense if he has gone off the straight and narrow path.
February 3rd, 2006 at at 10:11 am
No, of course God does not work like that, because this God does not exist.
February 3rd, 2006 at at 9:19 pm
To LBBP,
In answer to your question see the following:
LBBP asks -”For example; where do you get “80% of medical breakthroughs cures for disease are created by Christian research scientists”? Can you show me the results of a study that supports that claim? ”
Medieval medicine
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Medieval medicine was an evolving mixture of the scientific and the spiritual. In the early middle ages, following the fall of the Roman Empire, standard medical knowledge was based chiefly upon surviving Greek and Roman texts, preserved in monasteries and elsewhere. Ideas about the origin and cure of disease were not, however, purely secular, but were also based on a spiritual world view, in which factors such as destiny and sin played as great a part as any physical cause.
In this era, there was no clear tradition of scientific medicine, and accurate observations went hand-in-hand with spiritual beliefs as part of the practice of medicine. The use of herbs dovetailed naturally with this system, the success of herbal remedies being ascribed to their action upon the humours within the body. The use of herbs also drew upon the medieval Christian doctrine of signatures which stated that God had provided some form of alleviation for every ill, and that these things, be they animal, vegetable or mineral, carried a mark or a signature upon them that gave an indication of their usefulness. For example, the seeds of Skullcap (used as a headache remedy) can appear to look like miniature skulls; and the white spotted leaves of Lungwort (used for tuberculosis) bear a similarity to the lungs of a diseased patient. A large number of such resemblances are believed to exist.
Most monasteries developed herb gardens for use in the production of herbal cures, and these remained a part of folk medicine, as well as being used by some professional physicians. Books of herbal remedies were produced, one of the most famous being the Welsh, Red Book of Hergest, dating from around 1400.
Monastic Medicine Monasteries played a big part in the provision of medieval medicine. Virtually every monastery had an infirmary for the monks or nuns, and this led to provision being made for the care of secular patients. Almost a half of the hospitals in medieval Europe were directly affiliated with monasteries, priories or other religious institutions. Many of the rest imitated religious communities, formulated precise rules of conduct, required a uniform type of dress, and integrated worship services into their daily routine.
The term hospital encompassed hostels for travellers, dispensaries for poor relief, clinics and surgeries for the injured, and homes for the blind, lame, elderly, and mentally ill. Monastic hospitals developed many treatments, both therapeutic and spiritual. Patients were supposed to help each other through prayer and calm, perhaps benefiting as much from this as from any physical treatment offered.
Leonardo Da Vinci also had a large impact on medical advances during the Renaissance. Born on April 15th, 1452, Da Vinci’s approach to science was based on detailed observation. He participated in several autopsies and created many detailed anatomical drawings, planning a major work of comparative human anatomy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_medicine
JEWISH NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS IN PHYSIOLOGY OR MEDICINE
(28% of world total, 42% of US total)
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• Paul Ehrlich (1908)
• Elie Metchnikoff 1 (1908)
• Robert Bárány (1914)
• Otto Meyerhof (1922)
• Karl Landsteiner (1930)
• Otto Warburg 2 (1931)
• Otto Loewi (1936)
• Joseph Erlanger (1944)
• Herbert Gasser 3 (1944)
• Sir Ernst Chain (1945)
• Hermann Muller 4 (1946)
• Gerty Cori 5 (1947)
• Tadeus Reichstein (1950)
• Selman Waksman (1952)
• Sir Hans Krebs (1953)
• Fritz Lipmann (1953)
• Joshua Lederberg (1958)
• Arthur Kornberg (1959)
• Konrad Bloch (1964)
• Francois Jacob (1965)
• André Lwoff (1965)
• George Wald (1967)
• Marshall Nirenberg (1968)
• Salvador Luria (1969)
• Julius Axelrod (1970)
• Sir Bernard Katz (1970)
• Gerald Edelman (1972)
• David Baltimore (1975)
• Howard Temin (1975)
• Baruch Blumberg (1976)
• Andrew Schally 6 (1977)
• Rosalyn Yalow (1977)
• Daniel Nathans (1978)
• Baruj Benacerraf (1980)
• Sir John Vane 7 (1982)
• César Milstein (1984)
• Michael Brown (1985)
• Joseph Goldstein (1985)
• Stanley Cohen (1986)
• Rita Levi-Montalcini (1986)
• Gertrude Elion (1988)
• Harold Varmus (1989)
• Edmond Fischer 8 (1992)
• Alfred Gilman 9 (1994)
• Martin Rodbell 10 (1994)
• Stanley Prusiner 11 (1997)
• Robert Furchgott 12 (1998)
• Paul Greengard 13 (2000)
• Eric Kandel 14 (2000)
• Sydney Brenner 15 (2002)
• H. Robert Horvitz 16 (2002)
• Richard Axel (2004)
• Others 17
http://www.jinfo.org/Nobels_Medicine.html
Christian Nobel Prize winners - Medicine and Physiology
Ramón y Cajal, Santiago 284
Prize : Medicine and Physiology, 1906. Born: May 1, 1852; Petilla de Aragón, Spain. Death: October 18, 1934; Madrid, Spain. Parents: Father, Justo Ramón y Casasús Cajal; Mother, Antonia Cajal. Nationality: Spanish. Religion: Catholic.
1912
Carrel, Alexis 291
Prize : Medicine and Physiology, 1912. Born: June 28, 1873; Sainte Foy-les-Lyon, France. Death:… Célestine Vandenabeele Bordet. Nationality: Belgian. Religion: Christian
1923
Banting, Frederick Grant, Sir 298
Prize: Medicine and Physiology, 1923. Born: November 4, 1891; Alliston, Ontario, Canada. Death: February 21, 1941; Newfoundland, Canada. Parents: Father, William Thompson Banting; Mother, Margaret Grant Banting. Nationality: Canadian. Religion: Methodist
1926
Fibiger, Johannes Andreas Grib 301
Prize : Medicine and Physiology, 1926. Born: April 23, 1867; Silkeborg, Denmark. Death: January 30, 1928; Copenhagen, Denmark. Parents: Father, C.E.A. Fibiger; Mother, Elfride Muller Fibiger. Nationality: Danish. Religion: Lutheran
1932
Adrian, Edgar Douglas, Baron 308
Prize : Medicine and Physiology, 1932. Born: November 30, 1889; London, England. Death: August 4, 1977; London, England. Parents: Father, Alfred Douglas Adrian; Mother, Flora Lavinia Barton Adrian. Nationality: British. Religion: Protestant
1943
Dam, Carl Peter Henrik 320
Prize : Medicine and Physiology, 1943. Born: February 21, 1895; Copenhagen, Denmark. Death: April 18, 1976; Copenhagen, Denmark. Parents: Father, Emil Dam; Mother, Emilie Peterson Dam. Nationality: Danish. Religion: Christian.
Florey, Howard Walter, Sir 326
Prize : Medicine and Physiology, 1945. Born: September 24, 1898; Adelaide, Australia. Death: February 21, 1968; Oxford, England. Parents: Father, Joseph Florey; Mother, Bertha Mary Wadham Florey. Nationality: Australian; later British resident. Religion: Christian/Protestant
1960
Burnet, Frank MacFarlane, Sir 354
Prize: Medicine and Physiology, 1960. Born: September 3, 1899; Traralgon, Victoria, Australia. Death: August 31, 1985; Melbourne, Australia. Parents: Father, Frank Burnet; Mother, Hadassah Pollock MacKay Burnet. Nationality: Australian. Religion: Presbyterian
1969
Delbrück, Max 376
Prize : Medicine and Physiology, 1969. Born: September 4, 1906; Berlin, Germany. Death: March 10, 1981; Pasadena, CA. Parents: Father, Hans Delbrück; Mother, Lina Thiersch Delbrück. Nationality: German; later American citizen. Religion: Protestant. Education
1971
Sutherland, Earl Wilbur, Jr. 382
Prize: Medicine and Physiology, 1971. Born: November 19, 1915; Burlingame, KS. Death: March 9, 1974; Miami, FL. Parents: Father, Earl Wilbur Sutherland; Mother, Edith Hartshorn Sutherland. Nationality: American. Religion: Protestant
1974
Claude, Albert 388
Prize : Medicine and Physiology, 1974. Born: August 24, 1898; Longlier (now Luxembourg), Belgium. Death: May 22, 1983; Brussels, Belgium. Parents: Father, Florentin Joseph Claude; Mother, Marie-Glaudicine Wautriquant Claude. Nationality: Belgian; later American citizen. Religion: Catholic.
http://www.questia.com/PM.qst;jsessionid=DkGl0rmcpv49xQQGpdsnJ9XtLcrf7MWpgNQSdXZj1VFVXvQgTRkL!1160606902!1708646140?a=o&d=101312040