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	<title>Comments on: Apologetics: The Cosmological Argument</title>
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		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/18/the-cosmological-argument/#comment-18355</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jan 2007 22:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: The Evangelical Atheist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apologetics: The Transcendental Argument (Part I)</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Evangelical Atheist &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Apologetics: The Transcendental Argument (Part I)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2006 21:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Back in November, I started an irregular series on theist apologetics. Soon thereafter, I became distracted by the holidays (damn you O&#8217;Reilly), and I let this idea slip away. Now, on the unofficial end of the holiday season, it&#8217;s time to bring it back. [...]</description>
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<p>[&#8230;] Back in November, I started an irregular series on theist apologetics. Soon thereafter, I became distracted by the holidays (damn you O&#8217;Reilly), and I let this idea slip away. Now, on the unofficial end of the holiday season, it&#8217;s time to bring it back. [&#8230;]
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		<title>By: Verum Serum &#187; The Miracle of Our Existence</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/18/the-cosmological-argument/#comment-3197</link>
		<dc:creator>Verum Serum &#187; The Miracle of Our Existence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Dec 2005 02:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] e hosted at the Evangelical Atheist&#8217;s blog I went over and had a look. I came across this post in which he makes a serious attempt to deal with the cosmological a [...]</description>
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<p>[&#8230;] e hosted at the Evangelical Atheist&#8217;s blog I went over and had a look. I came across this post in which he makes a serious attempt to deal with the cosmological a [&#8230;]
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		<title>By: belathor</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/18/the-cosmological-argument/#comment-3122</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2005 06:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The mind takes up no space, it does not have its basic existence in time."

You are taking yourself out of the time perspective. The mind itself may not be matter, nor may it necessarilly be the pattern of neuron firings in the brain, but whatever it is, it exists in time. This sounds to me like an extraordinary claim. What is a "basic existence"? I'm typing this text using my mind. I'm creating a string of sentences, and I assure you these thoughts are occuring within the confines of space-time. You seem to be implying that our minds exist outside the universe even though it is impossible to come up with evidence to assert this in the first place.

As far as you first claim in the quote above, how do you know the mind takes up no space? How do you define the mind anyway?</description>
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<p>&#8220;The mind takes up no space, it does not have its basic existence in time.&#8221;</p>
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<p>You are taking yourself out of the time perspective. The mind itself may not be matter, nor may it necessarilly be the pattern of neuron firings in the brain, but whatever it is, it exists in time. This sounds to me like an extraordinary claim. What is a &#8220;basic existence&#8221;? I&#8217;m typing this text using my mind. I&#8217;m creating a string of sentences, and I assure you these thoughts are occuring within the confines of space-time. You seem to be implying that our minds exist outside the universe even though it is impossible to come up with evidence to assert this in the first place.</p>
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<p>As far as you first claim in the quote above, how do you know the mind takes up no space? How do you define the mind anyway?
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		<title>By: multidimid</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Nov 2005 19:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The differences between your “mind” and brain”.  

In physical life, your conscious mind is largely dependent upon the workings of your physical brain. The brain to some extent keeps the mind to a three dimensional focus. It orients you toward the environment in which you must operate, and it is because of the mind’s allegiance with the temporal brain that you perceive, for example, time as a series of moments.

The brain channels the information that the mind receives to your physical structure (the body) and because of this, physically speaking and in life as you think of it, the mind is to a large extent dependent on the brain’s growth and activity.

The brain is a camouflage pattern. It takes up space. It exists in time. The mind takes up no space, it does not have its basic existence in time. The reality of the inner universe does not take up space, nor does it have its basic existence in time. 

Your camouflage universe, on the other hand, takes up space and has an
existence in time, but it is not the real and basic universe, any more than the brain is the mind.
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<p>The differences between your “mind” and brain”.  </p>
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<p>In physical life, your conscious mind is largely dependent upon the workings of your physical brain. The brain to some extent keeps the mind to a three dimensional focus. It orients you toward the environment in which you must operate, and it is because of the mind’s allegiance with the temporal brain that you perceive, for example, time as a series of moments.</p>
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<p>The brain channels the information that the mind receives to your physical structure (the body) and because of this, physically speaking and in life as you think of it, the mind is to a large extent dependent on the brain’s growth and activity.</p>
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<p>The brain is a camouflage pattern. It takes up space. It exists in time. The mind takes up no space, it does not have its basic existence in time. The reality of the inner universe does not take up space, nor does it have its basic existence in time. </p>
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<p>Your camouflage universe, on the other hand, takes up space and has an<br />
existence in time, but it is not the real and basic universe, any more than the brain is the mind.
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