Comments on: PZ Throws Down http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/14/pz-throws-down/ Helping Mankind Overcome Religion Mon, 08 Sep 2008 05:41:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: PZ Myers http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/14/pz-throws-down/#comment-3103 PZ Myers Wed, 23 Nov 2005 02:09:11 +0000 http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/14/pz-throws-down/#comment-3103 The virtue of godlessness lies in the explicit denial of absurdities. It's not a commitment to emptiness or nothing -- it's a commitment to human and material values.

The virtue of godlessness lies in the explicit denial of absurdities. It’s not a commitment to emptiness or nothing — it’s a commitment to human and material values.

]]> By: DUB http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/14/pz-throws-down/#comment-2962 DUB Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:44:39 +0000 http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/14/pz-throws-down/#comment-2962 Franc, please stop being so dammit petty. I appreciate your writing, but your arrogance and elitism are proportionate to your talent (appropriately - elitism being an increasingly chronic failing of Libertarians). It is somewhat semantic to argue about this use of words "virtue of godlessness." The obvious point that's trying to be conveyed is that one who is godless can indeed be virtuous, and those virtues can be had independent of religion or belief in god/s. This is a worthy endeavor, especially since theists claim morality and virtue are impossible without god. The new look is nice, but I liked the understated simplicity of the old look, and especially religious significance (background & heaven/hell header/footer).

Franc, please stop being so dammit petty. I appreciate your writing, but your arrogance and elitism are proportionate to your talent (appropriately - elitism being an increasingly chronic failing of Libertarians).

It is somewhat semantic to argue about this use of words “virtue of godlessness.” The obvious point that’s trying to be conveyed is that one who is godless can indeed be virtuous, and those virtues can be had independent of religion or belief in god/s.

This is a worthy endeavor, especially since theists claim morality and virtue are impossible without god.

The new look is nice, but I liked the understated simplicity of the old look, and especially religious significance (background & heaven/hell header/footer).

]]> By: Matt "olly" Crandall http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/14/pz-throws-down/#comment-2925 Matt "olly" Crandall Tue, 15 Nov 2005 06:11:09 +0000 http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/14/pz-throws-down/#comment-2925 While I understand what you are saying Francois, it is a common complaint among Theists that Atheists never have anything positive to say, and from that standpoint, it's worth at least addressing. I just posted tonight, actually, about why I love being an Atheist. I don't talk about the 'virtues of godlessness', per se, but I do talk about why I am so much happier as an Atheist then most of the Theists I know. Anyway, here's my submittal: http://relevant-relativism.blogspot.com/2005/11/freedom-of-atheism.html#links -olly

While I understand what you are saying Francois, it is a common complaint among Theists that Atheists never have anything positive to say, and from that standpoint, it’s worth at least addressing. I just posted tonight, actually, about why I love being an Atheist. I don’t talk about the ‘virtues of godlessness’, per se, but I do talk about why I am so much happier as an Atheist then most of the Theists I know.

Anyway, here’s my submittal:

http://relevant-relativism.blogspot.com/2005/11/freedom-of-atheism.html#links

-olly

]]> By: LBBP http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/14/pz-throws-down/#comment-2910 LBBP Mon, 14 Nov 2005 19:53:25 +0000 http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/14/pz-throws-down/#comment-2910 I haven't managed to get anything submitted to COTG yet, but I will certainly try for this one. I've had a post along these lines in mind for awhile.

I haven’t managed to get anything submitted to COTG yet, but I will certainly try for this one. I’ve had a post along these lines in mind for awhile.

]]> By: Francois Tremblay http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/14/pz-throws-down/#comment-2900 Francois Tremblay Mon, 14 Nov 2005 17:24:17 +0000 http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/11/14/pz-throws-down/#comment-2900 In fact, the more I think about it, the less sense "virtue of godlessness" has to me. It seems totally absurd. Whatever virtue exists in godlessness exists by virtue of us being human beings, and why should atheist blogs write about that ?

In fact, the more I think about it, the less sense “virtue of godlessness” has to me. It seems totally absurd. Whatever virtue exists in godlessness exists by virtue of us being human beings, and why should atheist blogs write about that ?

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