Comments on: God is a Dick - Part XV: The Quran on Women

By: DUB

DUB — Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:15:04 +0000

I had the argument about women in Islam just last night with a Somali Muslim. He insists that women are abundantly respected. See, once you understand the simple fact that women just aren’t equal to or as capable or good as men in general, then you’ll understand.

Garbage.

By: Cantara

Cantara — Sat, 15 Oct 2005 09:06:28 +0000

Wait! I remembered my point! It was about those articles saying “No, no, the REAL TRUE Religion X is actually really good!” - I think the authors are just kind of desperate to prove that the conservative adherents of Religion X are not the authors’ voice. And show that they’re not quite ready to admit that hey, Holy Book of Choice has some atrocious inhumane stuff in it and move on - whether to being non-religious or to more actively dismissing the crappy stuff and its believers. That it mostly seems to be Muslims writing these articles at the moment I think is a symptom of the “Ack, everyone thinks that all Muslims are terrorists and misgynists!” response of solidarity - “No really, we’re ok, these verses prove it!” About 15 years ago when the issue of ordaining women in the Episcopalian church was big, there were a lot of simlar articles around by Christian women citing similar stuff about women from the Bible.

By: Cantara

Cantara — Sat, 15 Oct 2005 08:53:45 +0000

Most of the moderate-progressive Muslims I know are like the moderate-progressive Christians I know - generally try to focus on the decent bits of their respective holy books (help the oppressed etc etc) and understand the sexist/racist/dumb parts in their historical and literary context, and unlike fundies, acknowledge that there’s a whole lot of plot holes and inconsistencies and all that, and aren’t anti-science. Me, I’m a big ol’ atheist with occasional agnostic tendencies so I do find it an eyebrow-raiser that these otherwise smart people still insist upon God, but hey, at least they question stuff at all. (Which is not a defense of religion, either, more a resigned observation.)

Fundies, now, are just plain creepy and stupid. *shudder* And deserve no tolerance, because they sure as hell wouldn’t show me any.

(What’s that? A point? I’m sure I had one somewhere. Thinking about fundamentalists addles my brain. Sorry. )

By: Shahryar

Shahryar — Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:27:49 +0000

Mohammed did not writer the Quran - he was illiterate.

After his death his friends wrote down whatever they could recall Mohammed had claimed he had been told by the angel Gabriel!

By: breakerslion

breakerslion — Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:12:42 +0000

And thus do we see the ancient purpose of the bullshit that created religion in the first place: To each man, a little kingdom where he can be the alpha male. In exchange for this privilege, pay your dues to the club and be prepared to help out at the stonings.

The saddest part is that of the women that accept their lot in this lifestyle. They go on to raise little boys that believe that every little poo they extrude is something wonderful and special. Is it any wonder that some of these overindulged little brats cross the line from basic egomaniac to misogynist?

As for beautifulasma, this is the classic example of a religion being able to be interpreted to mean anything that the interpreter wants it to mean. This is follwed by the obligatory denial of all the contradictory material until such time as it is required to prove a different point.