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		<title>By: Rock You Like A Hurricane</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/09/14/the-sindicate/#comment-14435</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2006 10:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Markus...&lt;/strong&gt;

It was quite useful reading, found some interesting details about this topic. Thanks....</description>
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<p><strong>Markus&#8230;</strong></p>
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<p>It was quite useful reading, found some interesting details about this topic. Thanks&#8230;.
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		<title>By: I Am</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/09/14/the-sindicate/#comment-1815</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 03:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone actually believe he's gone?</description>
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<p>Does anyone actually believe he&#8217;s gone?
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/09/14/the-sindicate/#comment-1814</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 02:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>P.S.  Thanks for the dialogue and for all the insults (helps keep me humble!).  I've had enough atheist fun for a while.  

Have nice lives.  Really.</description>
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<p>P.S.  Thanks for the dialogue and for all the insults (helps keep me humble!).  I&#8217;ve had enough atheist fun for a while.  </p>
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<p>Have nice lives.  Really.
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/09/14/the-sindicate/#comment-1813</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 02:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One last try on the Hitler thing: Even IF he claimed to be a Christian, that doesn't mean he was one.  Lots of psychos think they are things that they are not.  Christians are people who have put their faith in Jesus and follow Him.  I see very little evidence from Hitler's life to confirm that.  Would you acknowledge the possibility that Hitler would have lied and claimed he was Christian?  Would lying for personal gain be keeping with the rest of his actions?  

My point wasn't that all atheists think Hitler was a swell guy.  Of course we all find his actions appalling.  My point was that people who are "guided by our own sense of morality" can't complain too loudly about other people's morality.  Hitler obviouisly was guided by his sense of morality.  I didn't say you shared that morality, but from a Christian worldview it is easy for me to make the case that he was wrong.  But how do you make that case from an atheistic worldview?  

"He withered a fig tree because it did not bear fruit as he passed by. You call this good?"

Perhaps the God of the universe did it to make a point.  You are the first person I've heard of who was offended by a fig tree being damaged.

"I submit that “bad things done in the name of Christ” do reflect on Christianity."

Wow.  So if I do something horrible, and say, "I do this because I'm an atheist," should that give atheists a bad name?  Have you noticed that people lie sometimes?  Is it possible that people might be attracted to the power or wealth the church might provide, even if they weren't true believers?  

"God could have created humans with free will and the inability to sin."  

Sounds like a big oxymoron to me.  Love is the most powerful and wonderful force in the universe, and you can't have it without free will.  Imagine that.  No one can force you to think a certain way, or to love someone else.  It has to be by your choice.  

"By the way, where in the Middle East are you writing from? How much of your networth have you devoted to “saving” soulds. Since you actually have to based on your worldview, I’d be interested to know. "

I haven't been to the Middle East, but I financially support ministries like Voice of the Martyrs and others that helps persecuted Christians around the world.  I have been to Kenya a couple times to share the love of Christ and build homes for AIDS orphans.  I'll spare you the rest of my good deeds and charitable contributions, as I doubt that even 100% donations would change your mind.  But my real point was that authentic "evangelical atheists" would do more to spread their good news than just run blogs.  Why do they fixate on Christianity at the expense of other religions?  Wouldn't love of their fellow man compel them to share with people of other faiths?  If you really think you have the sole truth about God (or the lack of God), wouldn't you be compelled to share it with as many people as possible?  
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<p>One last try on the Hitler thing: Even IF he claimed to be a Christian, that doesn&#8217;t mean he was one.  Lots of psychos think they are things that they are not.  Christians are people who have put their faith in Jesus and follow Him.  I see very little evidence from Hitler&#8217;s life to confirm that.  Would you acknowledge the possibility that Hitler would have lied and claimed he was Christian?  Would lying for personal gain be keeping with the rest of his actions?  </p>
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<p>My point wasn&#8217;t that all atheists think Hitler was a swell guy.  Of course we all find his actions appalling.  My point was that people who are &#8220;guided by our own sense of morality&#8221; can&#8217;t complain too loudly about other people&#8217;s morality.  Hitler obviouisly was guided by his sense of morality.  I didn&#8217;t say you shared that morality, but from a Christian worldview it is easy for me to make the case that he was wrong.  But how do you make that case from an atheistic worldview?  </p>
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<p>&#8220;He withered a fig tree because it did not bear fruit as he passed by. You call this good?&#8221;</p>
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<p>Perhaps the God of the universe did it to make a point.  You are the first person I&#8217;ve heard of who was offended by a fig tree being damaged.</p>
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<p>&#8220;I submit that “bad things done in the name of Christ” do reflect on Christianity.&#8221;</p>
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<p>Wow.  So if I do something horrible, and say, &#8220;I do this because I&#8217;m an atheist,&#8221; should that give atheists a bad name?  Have you noticed that people lie sometimes?  Is it possible that people might be attracted to the power or wealth the church might provide, even if they weren&#8217;t true believers?  </p>
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<p>&#8220;God could have created humans with free will and the inability to sin.&#8221;  </p>
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<p>Sounds like a big oxymoron to me.  Love is the most powerful and wonderful force in the universe, and you can&#8217;t have it without free will.  Imagine that.  No one can force you to think a certain way, or to love someone else.  It has to be by your choice.  </p>
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<p>&#8220;By the way, where in the Middle East are you writing from? How much of your networth have you devoted to “saving” soulds. Since you actually have to based on your worldview, I’d be interested to know. &#8221;</p>
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<p>I haven&#8217;t been to the Middle East, but I financially support ministries like Voice of the Martyrs and others that helps persecuted Christians around the world.  I have been to Kenya a couple times to share the love of Christ and build homes for AIDS orphans.  I&#8217;ll spare you the rest of my good deeds and charitable contributions, as I doubt that even 100% donations would change your mind.  But my real point was that authentic &#8220;evangelical atheists&#8221; would do more to spread their good news than just run blogs.  Why do they fixate on Christianity at the expense of other religions?  Wouldn&#8217;t love of their fellow man compel them to share with people of other faiths?  If you really think you have the sole truth about God (or the lack of God), wouldn&#8217;t you be compelled to share it with as many people as possible?
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		<title>By: Uberkuh</title>
		<link>http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/09/14/the-sindicate/#comment-1812</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 01:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neil wrote:
&lt;i&gt;"I was an atheist before I was a Christian, by the way."&lt;/i&gt;

Everyone is born an atheist. All babies are atheists.

Neil wrote:
&lt;i&gt;"But bad things done in the name of Christ don’t make logical arguments against Christianity if those things don’t line up with His teachings."&lt;/i&gt;

He withered a fig tree because it did not bear fruit as he passed by. You call this good?

I submit that "bad things done in the name of Christ" do reflect on Christianity. Were it clear what God considers right and wrong, then Christians would not do such bad things believing that they were doing God's will. The fact that these things happen proves that God did not communicate effectively. He could have implanted the ten commandments in our brains, for example. He did not need to give them to Moses on top of a mountain. Because God has power over everything, he is responsible for everything. You cannot escape this unless you limit God's power. And, by limitation, I do not mean irrational limitation, such as creating a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it. God could have created humans with free will and the inability to sin. Imagine that.</description>
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<p>Neil wrote:<br />
<i>&#8220;I was an atheist before I was a Christian, by the way.&#8221;</i></p>
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<p>Everyone is born an atheist. All babies are atheists.</p>
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<p>Neil wrote:<br />
<i>&#8220;But bad things done in the name of Christ don’t make logical arguments against Christianity if those things don’t line up with His teachings.&#8221;</i></p>
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<p>He withered a fig tree because it did not bear fruit as he passed by. You call this good?</p>
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<p>I submit that &#8220;bad things done in the name of Christ&#8221; do reflect on Christianity. Were it clear what God considers right and wrong, then Christians would not do such bad things believing that they were doing God&#8217;s will. The fact that these things happen proves that God did not communicate effectively. He could have implanted the ten commandments in our brains, for example. He did not need to give them to Moses on top of a mountain. Because God has power over everything, he is responsible for everything. You cannot escape this unless you limit God&#8217;s power. And, by limitation, I do not mean irrational limitation, such as creating a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it. God could have created humans with free will and the inability to sin. Imagine that.
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