Comments on: The Unity of the Trinity http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/06/16/the-unity-of-the-trinity/ Helping Mankind Overcome Religion Wed, 20 Aug 2008 10:06:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: boywonder http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/06/16/the-unity-of-the-trinity/#comment-279 boywonder Sun, 19 Jun 2005 03:31:53 +0000 http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/06/16/the-unity-of-the-trinity/#comment-279 AK, I haven't quite figured you out yet. Sometimes you seem to be pessemistic (sp), then you seem not to care about foreseeable problems. I guess I would be called a positive pessemist (sp). You know, the whole hope for the best, prepare for the worst kinda thing. I just hope you aren't saying that christians don't pose a dangerous threat.

AK, I haven’t quite figured you out yet. Sometimes you seem to be pessemistic (sp), then you seem not to care about foreseeable problems. I guess I would be called a positive pessemist (sp). You know, the whole hope for the best, prepare for the worst kinda thing. I just hope you aren’t saying that christians don’t pose a dangerous threat.

]]> By: GeneralZod http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/06/16/the-unity-of-the-trinity/#comment-275 GeneralZod Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:16:52 +0000 http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/06/16/the-unity-of-the-trinity/#comment-275 They might unite for a while, but there will inevitably be schisms. It is the same reason there are so many sects in the first place: they disagree on e the tiny details and split off. Hopefully, it will occur before the ink is even dry on their agreement! OR even better: it will far apart before they have a chance to truly unite.

They might unite for a while, but there will inevitably be schisms. It is the same reason there are so many sects in the first place: they disagree on e the tiny details and split off. Hopefully, it will occur before the ink is even dry on their agreement! OR even better: it will far apart before they have a chance to truly unite.

]]> By: Charles Watkins http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/06/16/the-unity-of-the-trinity/#comment-274 Charles Watkins Fri, 17 Jun 2005 04:49:34 +0000 http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/06/16/the-unity-of-the-trinity/#comment-274 Religion is all about feeling morally superior -- mainly as compensation for real economic or intellectual inferiority. Christians need to feel their own sect is superior to the others and for this reason will never unite.

Religion is all about feeling morally superior — mainly as compensation for real economic or intellectual inferiority. Christians need to feel their own sect is superior to the others and for this reason will never unite.

]]> By: Aaron Kinney http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/06/16/the-unity-of-the-trinity/#comment-273 Aaron Kinney Thu, 16 Jun 2005 15:26:40 +0000 http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/06/16/the-unity-of-the-trinity/#comment-273 I understand the scariness of this development everyone, but I dont think that Christianity is in any position to dominate America. Now let me clarify: when I say dominate, Im not talking about political power but about numbers. The plain fact of the matter is that Christianity is shrinking numerically in America. We are following the path that was blazed by europe. Europe is the most atheistic society in the developed world. America is following. Between 1990 and 2004, the "nonreligious" population in America doubled from 8% to 16%. Christianity is losing followers rapidly in America. Churches are closing AND there arent enough preachers to fill the spots that are available...so theres a shortage of both sheep and shepherds. The protestant portion of America is barely above 50% anymore, and wont likely remain so for long. As education improves and mixing of cultures increases, religion shrinks. The scary aprt is the polarization. Those that are religious are becoming MORE fanatical, and those that are kinda-religious are losing their religions. What we have to do, collectively, is serve as catalysts for deconversions. We have to obviously continue to spread godlessness however we can, but I think we shouldnt be too afraid of the religious organizations. We should fight them politically and ideologically yes, but rather than label them and recoil in alienation, we should engage them directly for dialogue. Communication is the key to all of this, as sharing of information is education, and education is what increases the "nonreligious" population in America and Europe and everywhere else. We can use hard evidence to back up our cause. We can point to Europes heavily atheistic population and its superior crime rates, life expectancies, and teen pregnancy rates (Europe has the highest quality of life in the world... yes much better than America too).

I understand the scariness of this development everyone, but I dont think that Christianity is in any position to dominate America.
Now let me clarify: when I say dominate, Im not talking about political power but about numbers.

The plain fact of the matter is that Christianity is shrinking numerically in America. We are following the path that was blazed by europe. Europe is the most atheistic society in the developed world. America is following.

Between 1990 and 2004, the “nonreligious” population in America doubled from 8% to 16%. Christianity is losing followers rapidly in America. Churches are closing AND there arent enough preachers to fill the spots that are available…so theres a shortage of both sheep and shepherds.

The protestant portion of America is barely above 50% anymore, and wont likely remain so for long. As education improves and mixing of cultures increases, religion shrinks.

The scary aprt is the polarization. Those that are religious are becoming MORE fanatical, and those that are kinda-religious are losing their religions.

What we have to do, collectively, is serve as catalysts for deconversions. We have to obviously continue to spread godlessness however we can, but I think we shouldnt be too afraid of the religious organizations. We should fight them politically and ideologically yes, but rather than label them and recoil in alienation, we should engage them directly for dialogue. Communication is the key to all of this, as sharing of information is education, and education is what increases the “nonreligious” population in America and Europe and everywhere else.

We can use hard evidence to back up our cause. We can point to Europes heavily atheistic population and its superior crime rates, life expectancies, and teen pregnancy rates (Europe has the highest quality of life in the world… yes much better than America too).

]]> By: Delta http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/06/16/the-unity-of-the-trinity/#comment-272 Delta Thu, 16 Jun 2005 14:42:30 +0000 http://evangelicalatheist.com/2005/06/16/the-unity-of-the-trinity/#comment-272 I'm glad to see your enthusiasm for this guys, that's definitely the first step. I'll go check out AthOn after this. I'm also very concered about the possibility of a unified christian majority. Americans take their freedoms granted so much. Everyone thinks "bah, this is America, we'll always have our freedoms". But we certainly definitely do not. The president currently supports laws that would take away rights from homosexuals. This kind of thing isn't much better than the way blacks were treated in the early 1900s. And it has a good deal of support. Homosexuals, atheists, how different do these look to a christian? One thing that I think is good though is that most christians in the country are just social christians. They go to be part of the community, not because they have this unwavering faith. They say they're christian when they are polled, but most of them probably don't go to church very regurlarly and they are unlikely to support too much church being combined with the state. And since voting is done privately, they can still vote against the church's position and then go hang out with their christian friends with no worries.

I’m glad to see your enthusiasm for this guys, that’s definitely the first step. I’ll go check out AthOn after this.

I’m also very concered about the possibility of a unified christian majority. Americans take their freedoms granted so much. Everyone thinks “bah, this is America, we’ll always have our freedoms”. But we certainly definitely do not. The president currently supports laws that would take away rights from homosexuals. This kind of thing isn’t much better than the way blacks were treated in the early 1900s. And it has a good deal of support. Homosexuals, atheists, how different do these look to a christian?

One thing that I think is good though is that most christians in the country are just social christians. They go to be part of the community, not because they have this unwavering faith. They say they’re christian when they are polled, but most of them probably don’t go to church very regurlarly and they are unlikely to support too much church being combined with the state. And since voting is done privately, they can still vote against the church’s position and then go hang out with their christian friends with no worries.

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